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Rupert Lloyd Thomas

I used to enjoy scripting.com when Dave Winer wrote about computing, but somewhere along the line he lost me. The latest rant made me think: "It's not about you, Dave." The people in the Red States don't hate him - the truth is they don't have a clue who he is. I'm sure he gets his share of hate mail but when you join in the political debate it goes with the territory. I guess he is too thin-skinned for politics.
I've only met Dave once at a Berkman gig at Harvard and I found him to be engaging and affable, if a little up himself and often in denial. He couldn't grasp the fact that the Blackberry comes from Canada: "It must have California venture capital behind it!" He claims to be so well informed but actually suffers from the naivete that he ascribes to the Red States. Anyway this red-baiting is unbecoming.
I wanted to post a, perhaps kinder, response on his blog but it seem he is sulking.

Mike

Winer's naivete is part of the general historical myopia of the current generation of the United States. The US has not been the only country chiefly populated by immigrants for 200 years (Canada, Australia, ... heck even look at the modern day Britain, France and Germany). A good deal of the immigrants I've met and worked with in the USA have been seduced by the American Idol model of its culture, eager to make enough money to buy a SUV to get down to the mall and fill up with goodies from CostCo.

The uniqueness of modern America is that it believes its own advertising.

Vince Williams

Dave says: "So I am totally Pro Choice, anti-death penalty, and I practice no religion. That's another reason people in the flyover states hate me."

Perhaps-- but really, how many people in the "flyover" states have heard of Dave Winer? I imagine that few of those who have are moved to so strong an emotion as hatred-- more likely they greet his opinions with the same indifference he claims to feel for theirs.

His uncle's Party of One may have thought for itself, but
I can vouchsafe that its mind was often decided by the wishes of its better half.

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